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FE Inventor Joseph Papp:
Pulsed Plasma Energy Conversion

Fastest Submarines, Endless Carburetors & Other Claims

Overview

Synopsis:  Joseph Papp invented and demonstrated a pulsed plasma discharge automotive style piston engine that ran on sealed charges of noble gas mixtures in the cylinders.  Electric arc ignition triggers far greater output than input.

Brief History: In 1967, Joseph Papp built a modified Volvo engine to run on a sealed charge of noble gases in the cylinders.  It was publicly demonstrated in Los Angeles in '68.  The engine controls were run on 110 VAC wall current through an extension cord.  Richard Feynman attended and pulled the plug; the engine continued to run for several minutes, but began running rough.  Papp took away the plug from Feynman and plugged it back in.  The engine exploded.  One person was killed.  Feynman accused Papp of using explosives to deliberately destroy the engine to keep the supposed hoax alive.  Papp sued Feynman and Caltech, and Caltech settled out of court in Papp's favor.  If explosives were used, Caltech would never have settled out of court.

Papp went on to improve the engine design until 1989 when he died.  He did not fully disclose his invention, despite 3 patents and many business associates who helped him build several working engines.  The USPTO required a certified dynamometer test in '83 that was done, and the third patent was issued in '84.  The dyno results were in the neighborhood of 500 ft lbs of torque at 500 rpm and 100 hp. 

TRW was involved with Papp until the engine explosion that killed someone.  Just prior to that public demonstration, a private demo was done for TRW in the California desert.  A nobel gas-charged cannon was detonated.  Instead of launching the 10 lb. projectile, the projectile lodged in the barrel and the 1/4" thick stainless steel barrel exploded like a peeled banana.  Clean Energy, Inc., which is resurrecting the Papp engine, has 8 mm camera footage from that event.  Contact CEI at cleanenergyinc@sbcglobal.com.  Cecil Baumgartner, a consultant to CEI, was present that day as a TRW employee; he lives in Glendale, CA.

Courtesy of Ken Rauen, Chief Technology Officer, CEI, Palo Alto, CA
March 4, 2004


Proponents

  • The Mystery and Legacy of Joseph Papp's Noble Gas Engine - Infinite Energy magazine article by Eugene Mallove
  • Joseph Papp: Noble Gas Engine (US Patent 4,428,193, etc) - Rex Research

Skeptics

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoaxnotes.html

6/21/03: A visitor named Heinz Klostermann sent me quite a bit of info about Joseph Papp, a Hungarian-born inventor who first claimed that he had built a submarine capable of traveling at 300 mph, and later claimed to have built a car engine that could run for six months without refueling. Heinz sent an
  1.  article about Papp that appeared in the San Jose Mercury News in 1989, as well as an article
  2. apparently written by the physicist Richard Feynman describing a demonstration of Papp's engine. It turns out that Heinz has been working for the past three years to reinvent Papp's engine (the secret of how to build it died with Papp). If you have any info about Papp he'd like you to contact him at: AHK2@rcn.com. Also check out the
  3. comments I've received over the years about Papp and his submarine.

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    - KeeleyNet
  • "Joseph Papp Plasma" on Search Engines
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  • Ken Rauen - intimate knowledge of Papp technology

 

Page posted by SDA, July 9, 2003.
Last updated December 03, 2004

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