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You are here: GreaterThings.com > News > Free Energy > Directory > Thermoelectric Technology > 12% of TEG 5000 Abyssmal

12% is Abysmal; Much Better Thermo Electric Technology Available

With reply by Walt Rosenthal

In Response to:

 

Reply

From: techstuf
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: TEG-5000

I fail to see the reasoning behind showcasing the TEG-5000  Thermo-electric device with an efficiency of 12%?    Molecular friction heaters, even crude one's have much higher efficiencies......the following device has been proven at over 100% efficiency on several occasions and is quietly being installed for major industry players around the world.......
 
http://www.alternativescience.com/over-unity.htm
 
 
http://www.hydrodynamics.com
 
The technology behind it is actually very simple!
 
 
12% is abysmal.  Considering that a simple 3 foot by 3 foot fresnel lens will output a constant temperature of >2,800 degrees Farenheit for 5 hours a day in clear weather....(which, by the way, the world is seeing more and more of these days unless you live in a Chemspray zone) is more than enough for adequate energy/storage systems of various design....including thermoelectric devices.  Yes,  there are truly myriad ways to get more than 12% efficiency without the use of any type of gas consumption.
 
 
 
Peace,
 
TS out

Walt Rosenthal Responds

From: "Walter Rosenthal" <res0f65d@verizon.net>
To: <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:44 PM
Subject: Techstuf comment

[...] Any resistor is 100 percent efficient in turning electricity into heat.  However, to turn heat INTO electricity is what the TEG does.  The TEG-5000 will produce five kilowatts of 120 VAC 60HZ from heat input, such as propane or diesel fuel.  The residual heat after it leaves the TEG-5000 can be used for heating your hot water, or your house.

Our world needs lots of remote, separate quiet sources of electricity.  Whether the efficiency in 12 percent, or 20 percent, really is not so important, as knowing how many cents worth of propane do we have to expend to generate one KWH of 120 VAC 60 HZ power using the TEG-5000.

The TEG-5000 has many applications where a quiet, easily portable, power source that is reliable, and long lasting, and reasonably priced would be desired.

Now it gets even better.  I know an inventor that has a hydrocarbon combustor that produces 2.6 times the maximum theoretical heat output from burning the hydrocarbon.  This has been carefully measured by an industry expert who writes books on power plant design and maintenance and teaches higher level courses on this subject.

I hope someday to see these two devices combined for the best of all worlds.

George Wiseman on his water torch web site mentions that when Brown's gas is used to heat certain catalytic substances, there is a release of four times the normal heat quantity from burning Brown's gas.

There is a considerable opportunity here for some incredible breakthroughs.

Sincerely yours,

Walter Rosenthal


Techstuff Replies

Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: TEG-5000
 
My apologies if it seemed as though I was denigrating the
TEG-5000.  In retrospect, I see how my stated opinion of the
12% efficiency rating of the device was careless and without
caveat. Again, my apologies.  Although it is true that 12%
efficiency is low compared to many other forms of energy
production, I can see how it is unique and has it's merits
for the applications cited.

GOD bless,

T.S. out

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